Dispute: Dick Moreland - Atari 2600 / VCS - Asteroids - EMU - Game 32, Difficulty A - 15-Minute Time Limit (Points) - Player: Rodrigo Lopes - Score: 111,390

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  1. 11-21-2019, 12:49 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by The Evener View Post
    Side by side - should have posted this first. Majority of the changes occur when his lower placed scores in the mixed track get bumped into first place with the EMU only tracks.

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    Cross-reference to the EMU Split project: https://www.twingalaxies.com/forumdi...-Split-Project
    Lots of 1sts to be surpassed: what are you waiting for? Play the game, submit the score...
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  2. 12-06-2019, 08:27 AM
    The score has already been removed, so this dispute should be declared successful soon.
    Lauren Tyler
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  3. 12-06-2019, 01:34 PM

    Note:-> Atari 2600 & EMU game with the same exact scores and times
    1. Alien
    2. Air Raid
    3. Amidar
    4. Astro Attack
    5. Astro War
    6. Astro Blast
    7. Air-Sea Battle Games 3 difficulty B
    8. Air-Sea Battle Games 6 difficulty B
    9. Air-Sea Battle Games 9 difficulty B
    10. Air-Sea Battle Games 12 difficulty B
    11. Air-Sea Battle Games 15 difficulty B
    12. Air-Sea Battle Games 18 difficulty B
    13. Air-Sea Battle Games 21 difficulty B
    14. Air-Sea Battle Games 24 difficulty B
    15. Air-Sea Battle Games 27 difficulty B
    16. Adventure game 1 difficulty B
    17. Adventure game 2 difficulty B
    had the same exact scores & times
    The Referee may have accidentally put in the scores and times both Atari 2600 & EMU,instead should have put it just 1 therefore getting 2 records for 1

    1. Atari 2600 Acid drop 1987 game 1 Difficulty B score 6th 111,000
    1.EMU score 650,200 1st That is a Huge jump in score

    2. Atari 2600 Alligator People Game 1 Difficulty 4 score
    72,169 2nd
    2. EMU score 1,111,903 1st another huge jump in score

    3. Atari 2600 Assault 1987 game 1 difficulty B score 3,246 4th
    3. EMU score 8,647 1st

    4. Atari 2600 Asterix 1987 game 1 difficulty B score 143,500 1st
    4. EMU score 1,000,000 1st another huge jump in score

    5. Atari 2600 Asteroids game 32 difficulty A score 37,840 4th
    5. EMU score 111,390 1st another huge jump in score

    6. Atari 2600 Aquadventure game 1 difficulty B score 268,375 1st
    6. EMU score 499,250 1st another huge jump in score

    7. Atari 2600 Air Raiders game difficulty score 35 5th
    7. EMU score 205 yet another huge jump in score
    Atari 2600

    March 2006

    October 2007
    October 2007


    I randomly checked a few scores on the October 2007 snapshot, and his new high scores including the Asteroids achievement were verified on September 2nd or 3rd 2006 on DVD, which suggests that they were at least submitted together at the time the track separations were taking place.

    In comparing the two snapshots, it's apparent that Lopes submitted a host of new EMU world records between March and September 2006. Usually clicking on a March score in the archive brings you to a snapshot of the track that was taken after September 2006 bearing the updated high score, illustrating that the previous score was superseded.

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  4. 12-06-2019, 01:40 PM
    wow nice catch juan. though air sea battle is a maxout title, i'm not sure if his scores are maxouts, that would obvoiusly make a difference. however for the non maxout titles, which arent round numbers either,it is indeed very strange to have the exact same score on both. The immediate suspicion is he double submitted fraudulently, but i dont think we can jump to that conclusion without knowing exact dates. I have to wonder if a side effect of the atari split resulted in some games being put into both platforms. could a ref have put a score on ntsc by accident? and then when corrected added to emu but forgot to remove from ntsc? who knows. definitley interesting point but we'd need more info to make accusations.
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  5. 12-06-2019, 02:15 PM
    Nice find @JJT_Defender

    It's amazing how a person would be on the same skill level as everyone else using real hardware but on EMU they would triple or even quadruple their scores.
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