Dispute: Chad Brevik - NES / FAMICOM / DISK - Track & Field II - NTSC - Points - Player: Eric Jacob - Score: 122,680

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  1. Dispute: Chad Brevik - NES / FAMICOM / DISK - Track & Field II - NTSC - Points - Player: Eric Jacob - Score: 122,680

    01-09-2020, 10:22 PM
    NES / FAMICOM / DISK - Track & Field II - NTSC - Points
    Score Track
    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=10211
    Rules
    Training Mode, May Freely Select Starting Event
    Special Rules: You must go into Training Mode for a score to be registered. You may FREELY choose your starting event, and every successful qualification will result in advancement to the next event. Failure to qualify for an event will result in an end to your scoring attempt. The Hammer Throw Glitch is NOT allowed and usage will result in immediate disqualification of your attempt. Please be advised that ALL submitted records will be under close scrutiny.
    [The Hammer Throw Glitch is where you keep your power level under the P and when you have to release, you allow the hammer to be flung at 80 Degrees which causes it to go a foot or Two, but register as 92.04 Meters.]
    Player Name
    Eric Jacob
    Original Adjudication
    https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthread.php?t=194358
    Verification Method
    TGSAP
    Verification Date
    2018-11-02
    Disputed Score
    122,680 (Rank 2)
    Disputed By
    Bogart
    Dispute Evidence / Rationale
    This score should be removed because it was played on a PAL system which plays at a speed that's 20% slower (detailed below) than NTSC, and in addition gives the user a massive button input advantage.

    For comparison purposes, let's look at Canoe and Swimming. No expert analysis is needed. One only needs to look at the video time on each video to measure what's going on.

    For Canoe we can compare (from the track leaderboard):
    Eric's video: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthread.php/194358
    Chad's video (mine): https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthread.php/204907
    and David's video: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthread.php/142796

    We can track the video time from when the in game timer goes from 0:01 to 1:25.

    Eric's canoe goes from 17:17 to 18:11, which is 54 seconds.
    Chad's canoe goes from 17:14 to 17:59, which is 45 seconds.
    David's canoe goes from 11:39 to 12:24, which is 45 seconds.

    If you add 20% to 45 seconds you get 54 seconds, which proves this was played on a PAL system.
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    To double check, let's look at swimming using the same video's above, and track the in game timer from 0:00:25 to 0:39:00

    Eric's swimming goes from 4:43 to 5:08, which is 25 seconds.
    Chad's goes from 6:18 to 6:38, which is 20 seconds.
    David's goes from 24:28 to 24:48, which is 20 seconds.

    If you add 20% to 20 seconds you get 24 seconds, which again proves this was played on a PAL system.
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    Due to the above proof that this was played on a PAL system on not an NTSC system, this score should be removed. Eric should then be allowed to resubmit this score on the PAL track
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    To find out what could have happened here, I contacted Eric to discuss this issue. I first asked him about his setup. He replied by saying that he has a PAL system and PAL Track & Field II cart. He wanted to compete on the NTSC tracks, so he bought and "NTSC" cart on ebay and borrowed his friend's "NTSC" system to play on.

    I then responded by going over the time discrepancies above, to which he had no response.

    Unfortunately, I do not believe the system he borrowed was an NTSC system after all, but it looks like this lead him to unknowingly submit PAL scores on the NTSC track.
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    I hope the above explanation makes sense and is easy to review, so this score (and two other of his scores) can be removed and the proper rankings can be restored on these tracks.

    Thank you for your time and consideration.
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