Dispute: Michael Sroka - PlayStation 2 - Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock - NTSC - 2. Your First Real Gig - Mississippi Queen - Easy Difficulty - 1-Player [Points] - Player: Tanya Blatherwick - Michael Sroka

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  1. Dispute: Michael Sroka - PlayStation 2 - Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock - NTSC - 2. Your First Real Gig - Mississippi Queen - Easy Difficulty - 1-Player [Points] - Player: Tanya Blatherwick - Michael Sroka

    05-09-2021, 07:56 PM
    PlayStation 2 - Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock - NTSC - 2. Your First Real Gig - Mississippi Queen - Easy Difficulty - 1-Player [Points]
    Track
    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=34292
    Rank

    Rules
    This game MUST be played with a Guitar Controller. To ensure the Guitar Controller is being used, players will be required to cycle through the fret buttons at least ONCE at the start of each song. Meaning... click and release each fret button just to show that you are using a guitar controller.
    Pausing is NOT allowed!
    The scores for individual songs [Points], Career [Points], and Career [Note Streak] can all be from the same game, but they do not have to be.
    Scores can be achieved during quick play or career mode.
    1-Player only!
    Player Name
    Tanya Blatherwick
    Original Adjudication
    N/A
    Verification Method
    DVD
    Verification Date
    2008-12-23
    Disputed Score
    90,525 (Rank 1)
    Disputed By
    timmell
    Dispute Evidence / Rationale
    These submissions were likely in error due to referee data input error for all of Tanya Blatherwick PS2- GH3 submissions. There is not enough "notes" in the song on easy diffculty to be able to achieve 60,000 points, or let alone 90,000. Please refer to the note chart I have submitted. And you can do the math if you wish.

    Each note is 50 points. There is 179 notes in the song on easy. If each note had a 8x multiplier for the entire song. ( which is impossible anyways, cause 8x can only achieved with star power/overdrive". And Star Power must be earned during the song itself) The math would be (50X8)X179 = 71,600 Points.
    90525?



    Or go to the real website of user submitted scores at Scorehero.com and see that no one is able to get a score above 55,000 on easy and or medium.

    https://www.scorehero.com/rankings.p...ff=1&song=1489

    https://www.scorehero.com/rankings.p...ff=2&song=1490


    We won't be able to tell what difficulty the player played on without the video. So my suggestion is to move the score to any difficulty created track. Or create Hard and or Expert difficulty track.

    There was a legit score IMO. Just the ref typed it into the database incorrectly back then. Cause there was no hard or expert tracks created ever.

    I believe that every single track submitted by Tanya on this game was on the Hard difficulty. So I hope Twin Galaxies see the larger error and correct them, or at least edit the track to any difficulty.

    Thanks
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  2. 06-20-2021, 07:39 PM
    @timmell - Please provide a list of links to all the tracks that you believe this submitter's scores fall underneath this dispute claim.
  3. 06-20-2021, 07:48 PM
    This is a valid dispute, it is imposible to achieve this score on the easy settings. I believe the score is legit but it was for sure played on a different difficulty.

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  4. 09-16-2021, 08:53 PM
    This was previously brought up in a past dispute that now is marked "inactive". I'm glad to see Administration is willing to review this in bulk this time around. A forum post by a former TG referee indicates that these submission were performed on Hard difficulty.

    The reference to Scorehero showing that this scores are impossible on this difficulty setting and a former referee noted these scores were performed on 'Hard' difficulty should be proof enough to move Tanya's accomplishments to the right tracks. Let's hope we don't need to revisit this again in a couple of years!

    Here is a link to the inactive dispute:
    https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthr...BlatherwickHee

    Here is a link to the old forum thread:
    https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthr...21387-WR-NEWS-

    WR NEWS [PS2] Tanya Blatherwick's Guitar Heroine III!

    12-30-2008, 05:22 AM


    Congratulations go out to Tanya Blatherwick for her incredible shredding performances on the majority of songs [before Unlocks] on Guitar Hero III for the PS2! Going for everything on the Hard difficulty level, she shows she's got what it takes to be a Guitar Heroine!


    Points [Hard Difficulty]

    1. Starting Out Small - Hit Me With Your Best Shot - 153,786 Points
    1. Starting Out Small - Rock & Roll All Nite - 139,820 Points
    1. Starting Out Small - Slow Ride - 115,418 Points
    1. Starting Out Small - Story Of My Life - 272,186 Points
    1. Starting Out Small - Talk Dirty to Me - 221,981 Points
    2. Your First Real Gig - Barracuda - 146,596 Points
    2. Your First Real Gig - Bulls on Parade - 220,786 Points
    2. Your First Real Gig - Mississippi Queen - 90,525 Points
    2. Your First Real Gig - Schools Out - 112,416 Points
    2. Your First Real Gig - Sunshine of Your Love - 193,578 Points
    3. Making the Video - Lay Down - 163,357 Points
    3. Making the Video - Miss Murder - 187,223 Points
    3. Making the Video - Paint It Black - 159,621 Points
    3. Making the Video - The Seeker - 167,480 Points
    3. Making the Video - When You Were Young - 217,371 Points
    4. European Invasion - Anarchy in the U.K. - 232,476 Points
    4. European Invasion - Even Flow - 156,831 Points
    4. European Invasion - Kool Thing - 165,235 Points
    4. European Invasion - My Name Is Jonas - 236,664 Points
    4. European Invasion - Paranoid - 237,278 Points
    5. Bighouse Blues - Holiday In Cambodia - 309,564 Points
    5. Bighouse Blues - La Grange - 174,598 Points
    5. Bighouse Blues - Rock You Like A Hurricane - 197,429 Points
    5. Bighouse Blues - Same Old Song and Dance - 130,856 Points
    5. Bighouse Blues - Welcome To The Jungle - 188,156 Points
    6. The Hottest Band on Earth - Black Magic Woman - 147,309 Points
    6. The Hottest Band on Earth - Black Sunshine - 179,880 Points
    6. The Hottest Band on Earth - Pride and Joy - 162,117 Points
    6. The Hottest Band on Earth - The Metal - 122,401 Points
    7. Live In Japan - 3's & 7's - 190,564 Points
    7. Live In Japan - Before I Forget - 166,052 Points
    7. Live In Japan - Cult Of Personality - 193,531 Points
    7. Live In Japan - Knights of Cydonia - 193,668 Points
    7. Live In Japan - Stricken - 248,010 Points
    8. Battle For Your Soul - Cliffs Of Dover - 151,590 Points
    8. Battle For Your Soul - The Number of the Beast - 223,426 Points


    Mr. Kelly R. Flewin
    “Politicians are people that get sworn in and then cursed out”
    ~AEN
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  5. 10-07-2021, 02:32 AM
    [Educated speculation:] It is likely that her scores were moved to the Easy track as part of a "dumbing down" process of the number of tracks in the database in the prior era. The aim was to have a single TG track per song track in the game to reduce the impact games could have on referee queues of submissions.
    Lots of 1sts to be surpassed: what are you waiting for? Play the game, submit the score...
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  6. 10-07-2021, 12:00 PM
    Sorry I haven't been around here much. Someone else posted this, but here.

    12-30-2008, 05:22 AM


    Congratulations go out to Tanya Blatherwick for her incredible shredding performances on the majority of songs [before Unlocks] on Guitar Hero III for the PS2! Going for everything on the Hard difficulty level, she shows she's got what it takes to be a Guitar Heroine!


    Points [Hard Difficulty]

    1. Starting Out Small - Hit Me With Your Best Shot - 153,786 Points
    1. Starting Out Small - Rock & Roll All Nite - 139,820 Points
    1. Starting Out Small - Slow Ride - 115,418 Points
    1. Starting Out Small - Story Of My Life - 272,186 Points
    1. Starting Out Small - Talk Dirty to Me - 221,981 Points
    2. Your First Real Gig - Barracuda - 146,596 Points
    2. Your First Real Gig - Bulls on Parade - 220,786 Points
    2. Your First Real Gig - Mississippi Queen - 90,525 Points
    2. Your First Real Gig - Schools Out - 112,416 Points
    2. Your First Real Gig - Sunshine of Your Love - 193,578 Points
    3. Making the Video - Lay Down - 163,357 Points
    3. Making the Video - Miss Murder - 187,223 Points
    3. Making the Video - Paint It Black - 159,621 Points
    3. Making the Video - The Seeker - 167,480 Points
    3. Making the Video - When You Were Young - 217,371 Points
    4. European Invasion - Anarchy in the U.K. - 232,476 Points
    4. European Invasion - Even Flow - 156,831 Points
    4. European Invasion - Kool Thing - 165,235 Points
    4. European Invasion - My Name Is Jonas - 236,664 Points
    4. European Invasion - Paranoid - 237,278 Points
    5. Bighouse Blues - Holiday In Cambodia - 309,564 Points
    5. Bighouse Blues - La Grange - 174,598 Points
    5. Bighouse Blues - Rock You Like A Hurricane - 197,429 Points
    5. Bighouse Blues - Same Old Song and Dance - 130,856 Points
    5. Bighouse Blues - Welcome To The Jungle - 188,156 Points
    6. The Hottest Band on Earth - Black Magic Woman - 147,309 Points
    6. The Hottest Band on Earth - Black Sunshine - 179,880 Points
    6. The Hottest Band on Earth - Pride and Joy - 162,117 Points
    6. The Hottest Band on Earth - The Metal - 122,401 Points
    7. Live In Japan - 3's & 7's - 190,564 Points
    7. Live In Japan - Before I Forget - 166,052 Points
    7. Live In Japan - Cult Of Personality - 193,531 Points
    7. Live In Japan - Knights of Cydonia - 193,668 Points
    7. Live In Japan - Stricken - 248,010 Points
    8. Battle For Your Soul - Cliffs Of Dover - 151,590 Points
    8. Battle For Your Soul - The Number of the Beast - 223,426 Points


    Mr. Kelly R. Flewin
  7. 11-09-2021, 12:54 PM
    So are all the tracks going to be corrected like the disputed one? Cause only one is corrected?

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  8. 11-18-2021, 11:17 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by timmell View Post
    Sorry I haven't been around here much. Someone else posted this, but here.

    12-30-2008, 05:22 AM


    Congratulations go out to Tanya Blatherwick for her incredible shredding performances on the majority of songs [before Unlocks] on Guitar Hero III for the PS2! Going for everything on the Hard difficulty level, she shows she's got what it takes to be a Guitar Heroine!


    Points [Hard Difficulty]

    1. Starting Out Small - Hit Me With Your Best Shot - 153,786 Points
    1. Starting Out Small - Rock & Roll All Nite - 139,820 Points
    1. Starting Out Small - Slow Ride - 115,418 Points
    1. Starting Out Small - Story Of My Life - 272,186 Points
    1. Starting Out Small - Talk Dirty to Me - 221,981 Points
    2. Your First Real Gig - Barracuda - 146,596 Points
    2. Your First Real Gig - Bulls on Parade - 220,786 Points
    2. Your First Real Gig - Mississippi Queen - 90,525 Points
    2. Your First Real Gig - Schools Out - 112,416 Points
    2. Your First Real Gig - Sunshine of Your Love - 193,578 Points
    3. Making the Video - Lay Down - 163,357 Points
    3. Making the Video - Miss Murder - 187,223 Points
    3. Making the Video - Paint It Black - 159,621 Points
    3. Making the Video - The Seeker - 167,480 Points
    3. Making the Video - When You Were Young - 217,371 Points
    4. European Invasion - Anarchy in the U.K. - 232,476 Points
    4. European Invasion - Even Flow - 156,831 Points
    4. European Invasion - Kool Thing - 165,235 Points
    4. European Invasion - My Name Is Jonas - 236,664 Points
    4. European Invasion - Paranoid - 237,278 Points
    5. Bighouse Blues - Holiday In Cambodia - 309,564 Points
    5. Bighouse Blues - La Grange - 174,598 Points
    5. Bighouse Blues - Rock You Like A Hurricane - 197,429 Points
    5. Bighouse Blues - Same Old Song and Dance - 130,856 Points
    5. Bighouse Blues - Welcome To The Jungle - 188,156 Points
    6. The Hottest Band on Earth - Black Magic Woman - 147,309 Points
    6. The Hottest Band on Earth - Black Sunshine - 179,880 Points
    6. The Hottest Band on Earth - Pride and Joy - 162,117 Points
    6. The Hottest Band on Earth - The Metal - 122,401 Points
    7. Live In Japan - 3's & 7's - 190,564 Points
    7. Live In Japan - Before I Forget - 166,052 Points
    7. Live In Japan - Cult Of Personality - 193,531 Points
    7. Live In Japan - Knights of Cydonia - 193,668 Points
    7. Live In Japan - Stricken - 248,010 Points
    8. Battle For Your Soul - Cliffs Of Dover - 151,590 Points
    8. Battle For Your Soul - The Number of the Beast - 223,426 Points


    Mr. Kelly R. Flewin
    I'd like to think if that was announced back in 2008 on Twin Galaxies; Especially after viewing this announcement made back in 2008 a month before hand requesting others come play Guitar hero.

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    How about this?

    Vote the dispute yes right now cause this is a valid issue and then move all the found issue ones to Hard Tracks upon confirming their physically possible and within reason do-able on them.

    Timmell, I've played a Guitar hero game only once so the explaination does match up with how I remember the game.
    My question to you is can you provide the math that shows 90,525 possible in a different difficulty setting IE Hard?
    Is the score possible then?
  9. 11-18-2021, 08:40 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Maris Memes View Post
    I'd like to think if that was announced back in 2008 on Twin Galaxies; Especially after viewing this announcement made back in 2008 a month before hand requesting others come play Guitar hero.


    Timmell, I've played a Guitar hero game only once so the explaination does match up with how I remember the game.
    My question to you is can you provide the math that shows 90,525 possible in a different difficulty setting IE Hard?
    Is the score possible then?
    Yes just change the amount of notes in the song based on difficulty

    "Each note is 50 points. There is 179 notes in the song on easy. If each note had a 8x multiplier for the entire song. ( which is impossible anyways, cause 8x can only achieved with star power/overdrive". And Star Power must be earned during the song itself) The math would be (50X8)X179 = 71,600 Points"

    Hard on Missippi queen has 337 notes

    https://www.scorehero.com/rankings.php?group=4&game=0&diff=3&song=1131&page= 1&highlight=1

    (50 X 8) X 337 = 134,800. Once again you can't get 8X for every note. 1st it takes a 40 note streak to get to 4x. Then to have star power to create the 8x mulitpler. Which will not last the entire song.
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