Dispute: Reina Adair - Nintendo 64 - Perfect Dark - NTSC - dataDyne Central - Defection - Agent - Player: Wayne Meares - Reina Adair

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  1. Dispute: Reina Adair - Nintendo 64 - Perfect Dark - NTSC - dataDyne Central - Defection - Agent - Player: Wayne Meares - Reina Adair

    08-16-2021, 08:22 AM
    Nintendo 64 - Perfect Dark - NTSC - dataDyne Central - Defection - Agent
    Track
    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=4120
    Rank

    Rules
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    Player Name
    Wayne Meares
    Original Adjudication
    https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthread.php?t=140476
    Verification Method
    TGSAP
    Verification Date
    2015-10-16
    Disputed Score
    46.0 (Rank 1)
    Disputed By
    Lauren Tyler
    Dispute Evidence / Rationale
    Another case of a missing video.
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  2. 08-17-2021, 08:58 PM
    Video does a no-show? The record gotta go.
  3. 08-19-2021, 02:17 PM


    Hey Lauren,

    Since you have already disputed a pair of scores by Wayne Meares due to missing evidence, we might as well open the floodgates.

    Wayne currently has 74 submissions in the Accepted archive (summarized below):


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    Of those 74 submissions, 2 scores have already been disputed and 56 more are standing by.

    In each case:

    • The submission has been accepted
    • The score appears on the appropriate leader board
    • The video source = YouTube (not uploaded to TG)
    • The video is currently unavailable for review


    The relevant scoreboard tracks are as follows:

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=431

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=4102

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=4121

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=4123

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=4126

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=4128

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=4129

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=4131

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=4132

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=4134

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=4135

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=4139

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=5736

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=19539

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=19540

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=20096

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=20099

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=20100

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=20418

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=21560

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=21561

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=37267

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=37268

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=37287

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=37289

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=37865

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=38619

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=38620

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=38621

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=38754

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=43232

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=48895

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=49512

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=49514

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=49800

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=74141

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=74148

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=122669

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=123532

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=124078

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=124340

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=126754

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=127300

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=127301

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=127302

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=127303

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=127308

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=127309

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=127311

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=130726

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=130851

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=130855

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=131744

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=132420

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=132421

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=202340

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  4. 08-19-2021, 05:31 PM
    Let's not forget I can only submit one dispute every twenty-four hours.
    Lauren Tyler
    Eternal Champion of Ragol
  5. 08-19-2021, 05:35 PM
    A score can not be disputed if it has been accepted and still has the video evidence available. Missing videos, yes. Submissions with video, no. Mandatory upload didn't take effect until April of 2016 or 17, can't remember which. It was advised to directly upload any videos that were submitted via youtube/twitch in case they became unavailable.
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  6. 08-19-2021, 06:01 PM
    I know nobody was saying remove those scores that had video, but not many new people know about the old youtube/twitch uploads being acceptable back then vs mandatory upload now. Figured I'd save people headache now.
  7. 08-23-2021, 11:04 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Lauren Tyler View Post

    Let's not forget I can only submit one dispute every twenty-four hours.


    The two Perfect Dark submissions already disputed are only the tip of the iceberg.

    Over the past few days, I spent many hours examining the accepted scores of various TG members. I have already discovered more than 250 submissions where the video evidence is currently unavailable (YouTube videos set as "Private"). If disputed, the CR consequences will likely be substantial for a number of highly active adjudicators, myself included.

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  8. 08-23-2021, 01:45 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by stella_blue View Post


    The two Perfect Dark submissions already disputed are only the tip of the iceberg.

    Over the past few days, I spent many hours examining the accepted scores of various TG members. I have already discovered more than 250 submissions where the video evidence is currently unavailable (YouTube videos set as "Private"). If disputed, the CR consequences will likely be substantial for a number of highly active adjudicators, myself included.

    Yeah, the group from Texas has seemed to set almost all their videos to private. Cant remember the guys name that had all the consoles strewn all over the room. Long hair, several players used them. I'll think of it.
  9. 08-23-2021, 01:46 PM
    Jesse porter was the name.
  10. 08-23-2021, 02:45 PM
    You should consider sending something directly to the admin staff account. Then again, little seems to have come of the investigation that I did into Ryan Genno's scores at this point. It took me a week to gather evidence and then about another week to make the video.

    Not really sure how well TG can handle many instances of scores being deemed invalid. In Ryan's case there were over 80 scores that should be invalidated. This just adds to the list of scores that should be removed as they do not meet the standard by which TG expects of a valid score.

    The difference with these scores compared to Ryan's invalid scores is that the video can be made public once more and that likely fixes the issue without a mass removal of scores due to incomplete evidence being available for scrutiny.
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