NES / FAMICOM / DISK - Astyanax - NTSC - Fastest Completion - 29:15.0 - Jared Oswald

Is this Performance Claim Valid?

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  1. NES / FAMICOM / DISK - Astyanax - NTSC - Fastest Completion - 29:15.0 - Jared Oswald

    09-14-2021, 04:47 PM
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    NTSC - Fastest Completion
    Track
    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=19878
    Rank
    2
    Rules
    Factory Default [No Codes Allowed]
    Special Rules: Pausing is permitted ONLY to change spells. The Timer begins when you press Start on the Title Screen and ends when you lay the final blow on the wizard "Blackhorn". You MUST complete the game or your record/attempt WILL be disqualified!
    Submission Message
    This is a re-submission of a previous speedrun adjudication in 2018.

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  2. 12-09-2021, 11:18 AM
    The ending timer says 29:15.3. (Not 29:15.0).
  3. 12-09-2021, 01:51 PM
    Voting no as the final time shown in the submission is 29:15.3, not 25:15.0
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  4. 12-10-2021, 04:02 AM
    Actually, I rounded it off to 29:15 so nobody won't get confused with the milliseconds.
    Jared Oswald
    World record holders on "Guitar Hero", "Rock Band" and Sonic games.
  5. 12-29-2021, 09:00 PM
    In this case since you have an onscreen timer I think you should submit with the milliseconds since it's more precise.
  6. 12-30-2021, 02:43 PM
    TG has always rounded timed runs up or down to the closest second. Some track rules have been written to override this, but it's game specific. Not as precise as SRC, but it's how it's been done.
  7. 12-30-2021, 02:47 PM
    Pending watching the full play, time looks good to me.
  8. 01-01-2022, 06:26 AM
    I will gladly vote yes, as long as others can agree with the TG rounding method.
  9. 01-01-2022, 09:00 AM
    Rounding has always been used at TG. Some people didn't know is all. This submission is all good to go.
  10. 01-01-2022, 09:16 AM
    As thegamer mentioned, rounding was the norm for quite a while because there wasn't reliable means of timing more than 1 second intervals (many speedruns were submitted using vhs tapes and refs had to hand-time).

    A little more info though so there is not confusion: rounding is a little bit of an imperfect term as it could imply rounding up or down to the nearest second depending on where the tenths of a second are. More accurately, unless the rules state otherwise, milliseconds are dropped from the time and it is measured in whole seconds. For example 29.01 and 29.99 would both become 29 seconds in a sub like this.

    For a recent example of this on a track with quite a few submissions from back in the day, you can look at the SMB speedrun track here - https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthread.php/232466

    All of this to say, that the submitted time being rounded here is totally fine.
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