Arcade - Shock Troopers - [Points[Single Player Only]] - 3,816,000

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  1. 09-11-2022, 05:17 AM
    Actually you know what, you don't need to even look far to find someone else playing on a flash cart. Here is the hardware used on the already accepted second place submission for this track!


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    Hilarious.
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  2. 09-11-2022, 05:49 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Excelliron View Post
    Well obviously they bought the boards, but where can one buy hundreds of NeoGeo boards?.
    A quick search on AliExpress for MV1C and you'll find many sellers like this:

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    Neo Geo motherboards like this are cheap and plentiful.
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  3. 09-11-2022, 07:53 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by EVN View Post
    Man this place is stupid sometimes.

    TG allows Everdrives right? This is just an Everdrive for the MVS. If you want to reject this because it's played on a Darksoft cart you may as well go and dispute the thousands of Everdrive records on the scoreboards.

    I'm not gonna go dig them up but if you go looking there's already accepted scores on various games here that were played on a NeoSD which is the same thing made by a competing company.
    In my mind, the code running on it is the question. I dont remember if and how the DS cps-2 conversation addressed the subject of decrypted cps-2 roms. I do remember that we all agreed that phoenix code would not be allowed.

    The code/game files on console everdrives are assumed to be direct dumps of original carts. That might be an overreaching assumption for all cases, but it is the basis of acceptance for console everdrive submissions.

    Are the rollup pack roms used for the neo SD as well? I'm not saying that's an automatic accept if they are, and I think the rom data, since it does not appear in the same format as the mame files (which are also direct dumps of the original code) and cannot simply be run through a validation tool like romident, needs to be validated before I'd be comfortable accepting the DS Neo Multi.

    Scrutiny is not a bad thing in these cases.
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  4. 09-11-2022, 05:28 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by YesAffinity View Post
    In my mind, the code running on it is the question. I dont remember if and how the DS cps-2 conversation addressed the subject of decrypted cps-2 roms. I do remember that we all agreed that phoenix code would not be allowed.
    It's just decrypted code. ROMs are prepared by decrypting them: https://github.com/aluzed/MiSTer-Neogeo-Rom-Decrypter

    From my understanding A normal Neo Geo Cart has the ROMs in an encrypted at rest state and decrypts the data before it is presented to the Neo Geo motherboard. Flash carts and MiSTer just store the ROMs in a decrypted state.

    The NeoSD I believe does the same thing but Terraonion provide their users with a different tool to load the ROMs on. Not 100% sure because they lock all their stuff behind DRM and you need to be a customer to get access to tools and firmware updates.

    There are a couple of titles where they patch the code to get around additional copy protection, I believe it's like Fatal Fury 2 and Metal Slug X (don't quote me but its something like that) but even then apparently TG say it's ok to patch a game to bypass copy protection see: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthr...l=1#post990329

    If in doubt just go and ask on arcade-projects.com you'll get more accurate answers there.
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  5. 09-11-2022, 06:08 PM
    This has nothing to do with the Darksoft cart, just showing that the NeoSD does something similar.

    https://terraonion.com/app/uploads/n...pro-manual.pdf

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  6. 09-22-2022, 08:41 PM
    based flashcart user

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  7. 09-24-2022, 01:52 AM
    1 in 161 no
  8. 09-24-2022, 02:15 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by BotzaBrand View Post
    1 in 161 no

    Its not a 161 in 1, what are you talking about?
  9. 10-04-2022, 01:48 AM
    Voting yes, it's the same as an everdrive, which is a cart being played on original hardware.
  10. 10-11-2022, 01:19 AM
    I'm sorry, Steven. I have to vote No.
    Jared Oswald
    World record holders on "Guitar Hero", "Rock Band" and Sonic games.
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