This is not a clear issue and we would like the community to provide some additional thoughts here before we make a determination.


1.) The intention of the track may be to simply measure a 2 player game and add the totals of player 1 and 2 together for a final score.


2.) Given #1 - technically player 1 and player 2 "start" at the same time because both begin their opportunity to score after the 2 player game button has been pressed (which only occurs once) and started. So it can be argued that this is rules compliant.


3.) The intention of point #1 is not in conflict with the rules that clearly state that the record is the SUM of the 2 scores upon game completion.


As it currently stands, we are inclined to preserve this score and instead place additional clarification in the rules around the phrase "start at the same time" that help competitors understand that the alternating turns of player 1 and 2 is the desired intention for building toward the total score.


Any additional thoughts would be helpful.


Thank you!


-TG

All "two-player team" tracks are cooperative.Two players play simultaneously on the screen, working together.
This game does not allow such cooperation.
It is not logical to add up the points of two players who are each playing their own game.

I'm inclined to agree with Twin Galaxies here as the game cannot be played in a "conventional simultaneous" method. If there are two credits inserted and the 2-Player game button is used, this is how the game intentional pans out a two-player game and the rules reflect that possibility. I agree it's not conventional but it looks like this is how the rules were designed.

Furthermore, the game ensures that the two players are playing at the same session: not simultaneous but they are in the same session. It is a minor distinction but this is different from two players who each have a single-credit game.

Originally Posted by Maris Memes

The game doesnt have 2 player?

https://youtu.be/K1zRKoX9MuA?t=18

18 seconds in & there's an option for 2 Players. As I stated above, they do not play simultaneously but it does enable player two and they take turns. The rules state the combination of both players at their conclusion. So this is not "traditional simultaneous" 2 player because the game does not support that but it is two players in the same session taking turns. Just because something is not traditional does not mean it cannot be tracked.

This score tracker is an abomination, and ought to have been aborted, shortly after conception.

Get rid of it, and every other similar travesty.

The whole point of a 'two player' game is competition, not teamwork.

Adding two competing scores together, and calling it a 'team score', is beyond idiotic.

This score is not worth preserving. Competing scores belong on separate rungs of a scoreboard.

I'll close by pointing out what ought to be obvious: "two player team" means two players, playing simultaneously, not taking turns.

Originally Posted by Almighty Dreadlock

I'll close by pointing out what ought to be obvious: "two player team" means two players, playing simultaneously, not taking turns.

This definition would suggest that a two man relay race team is not a team - Where one team member runs the first lap, and then passes the baton to the next team member who then runs the final lap. Their times are essentially combined to be one time.


The way that this track seems to be set up may be reasonably argued to be that kind of team structure.


Food for thought.

Originally Posted by Jace Hall

This definition would suggest that a two man relay race team is not a team

Nope. A relay race is a simultaneous effort by the team members. In order to make an optimal baton pass, the giver and receiver must run at approximately the same speed, for a short period of time. So, there is clear overlap of effort, even though the task is split.

A relay race is successfully run, when all the team members make a full contribution to the overall effort. In a 'two player' game, one player does not contribute to the other's game, thus the players cannot be referred to as teammates.

I say, again: 'two player' games are not team games.

Get rid of this track, score, and notion.