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Snowflake
04-10-2020 at 09:19 AM
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Question mainly for new people but all answers wanted

So the queue is really small again, i'm wondering if thats good or bad for image. we complain when the queue gets big and mass submitters but a small queue also makes tg look less active, so my questoin(s) is this

does a big or small queue look better/worse to new member

does a big or small queue look better/worse to outsiders

does a big or small queue make it more/less likely for people to join twin galaxies

does a big or small queue make it more/less likely for people to respect twin galaxies records

though i believe the 4 questions above are all the same question, if there is some nuanced differences please include them in your answer.

i'm especially interested in new people's answer, and ideally any lurkers answer since you'd know best since you are the people i'm asking about. of course expereinced members know others, as well as know how they used to feel, so i'm interested in all answers.

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there will be a follow up of course, of if the answer will change our submitting patterns. for example, as i'm working on a game, should i wait until i got the best score i can and am done with the game and submit my final score, or should i submit my progress along the way. the answer would be depending on if i believe a larger queue is good or bad for twin galaxies. but this is just a "coming in next issue" please dont answer this question yet, right now lets focus on the above questions


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  1. thegamer1185's Avatar

    All depends. I think having a large queue looks like the site is very active, but that all depends on how long they have been sitting in the queue. If the queue is 500 submissions long, and they are all within 4-6 months of the current date, then it shows the site is very active and submissions pass the queue relatively quickly. If the queue was exactly how it was last week, 700 plus submissions with quite a few sitting there for almost a year, it doesn't exactly show a quick process or that people are active.

    I don't think a small queue is a negative, just shows that people are actively voting. It's not the size that matters, it's how you use it, heyo!

    I would never use the queue to persuade someone to join or to give respect to TG. I would say the TGSAP system and it's accuracy of the leaderboard since it has been put in place would be the main draw. I don't separate the leaderboards, but the accuracy since TGSAP is unquestionable, and the dispute system is there to fix the incorrect scores.

  2. sdwyer138's Avatar

    I feel the age of the oldest submission will drive perceptions in a negative way much more than the size of the queue will.

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  3. Desidious's Avatar

    The queue isnt the only thing showing how barren this site is I hate to say.

  4. Snowflake's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by sdwyer138

    I feel the age of the oldest submission will drive perceptions in a negative way much more than the size of the queue will.


    do you think it makes a difference if its a new players sub or a regular members sub? you know, i have no doubt if someone sees their sub not go through they'll be upset, but do you think new people care about other peoples old subs?

    either way of coures thats a problem we can fix. maybe we need a "remove the old subs day". once a year? once a month? once a season. maybe something like @Ninglendo did with peer adjudication where every so often we get together suck it up, let cred by damned and just vote on the old subs

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  5. sdwyer138's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by Snowflake

    do you think it makes a difference if its a new players sub or a regular members sub? you know, i have no doubt if someone sees their sub not go through they'll be upset, but do you think new people care about other peoples old subs?

    either way of coures thats a problem we can fix. maybe we need a "remove the old subs day". once a year? once a month? once a season. maybe something like @Ninglendo did with peer adjudication where every so often we get together suck it up, let cred by damned and just vote on the old subs

    I've suggested an expiration date before, it was met with mixed feelings. Me personally, if some subs are passing in a week, and others are still hanging out after two years, then that tells me there is something wrong with those subs that they aren't getting voted on one way or another, and maybe the submitter should rethink their evidence package.

  6. Desidious's Avatar

    It's not like we don't have the extra time to do stuff like what Glen did. I hate to see all the missed opportunities here considering the global situation we are all in.


    Now would be a perfect time for community ideas and working together to accomplish them.

  7. Snowflake's Avatar

    an expiration date is an admin decision. also "expire" i'm assuming means reject? i'm suggesting we as a community agree to finally vote. not agree to reject (that would be collusion) just agree to finally vote our consicence and get it out of the queue.

  8. Desidious's Avatar

    Why don't you list out the subs in question and get opinions. Shedding some light would possibly bring them to a close.

  9. sdwyer138's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by Snowflake

    an expiration date is an admin decision. also "expire" i'm assuming means reject? i'm suggesting we as a community agree to finally vote. not agree to reject (that would be collusion) just agree to finally vote our consicence and get it out of the queue.


    In my mind, an expire is just a neutral thing, a cancel, a retraction. Its not rejected because people didn't vote to reject it, they didn't vote at all. You lose your SP, but there is no voting consequence/benefit.

  10. Pixe Sukola's Avatar

    A smaller queue is much, much better. It motivates gamers to submit more. I had 65 pending scores last week, it was getting boring to just submit and not having any of them passed so I stopped and played League of Legends for a few days, now I have only 3 pending, I feel great to have all the ESi for thos scores and I feel like submitting more now.

    A giant queue may give outsiders the impression of a bigger or more important TG, but it is frustrating for the newcomers and gamers already here, to have 2000 scores pending and knowing that yours is buried in all that shiat. It would be like a person that buys books and puts them around his desk and instead of reading them he uses his time to go out and buy more books, people may think he reads a lot, but all he does is buy more books.

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  11. starcrytas's Avatar

    I recently had a bunch of months old submissions get accepted, but most of them were no longer than a few minutes, like Mario Kart races.

    I see lots of users voicing their votes, so it's not like there's no adjudication.

    Maybe they got buried deep into the queue that keeps on growing.

    I think if the oldest submissions are quick racing games or a level on Angry Birds, then it may seem that even quick scores can take a while to get through.

  12. Ulisses Patriota's Avatar


    a large or small queue looks better / worse for the new member 1. A small queue looks better for a new member. a big or small queue looks better / worse to outsiders 2. A long queue may seem to take longer. But, it gives the impression that the community is required. a large or small queue makes it more / less likely that people will join twin galaxies 3. A long queue can indicate that more people adhere to and respect the TG. a large or small queue makes it more / less likely that people will respect the records of twin galaxies 4. Most likely to respect TG records.

  13. Ragequit's Avatar

    If people were complaining all the time that the sub queue was too big and now the queue is small it seems to me that looks like more people are actively voting on subs and subs are being accepted faster...which is a good thing

  14. 90skidJohnny's Avatar

    hmmm so size REALLY does matter.

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