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Snowflake
07-03-2020 at 09:55 AM
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How come juan gets to make derivatives and i dont

Mr. Juan left out one very important step of track creation. You have to get his permission. If he harasses and badgers franny enough she'll give into his terrorism and prevent good players who actualy want to submit scores to legitimate tracks from creating those tracks and submitting to them.

how come we cant make good tracks and cant submit to good tracks all cause it'll provke Mr.Juan yet he gets to go on provoking telling people how to make derivatives knowing full well he harassed admin into preventing us from doing so?

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  1. Rogerpoco's Avatar

    Whoda thunk?

    That game seems to have been a key factor in killing the Friendly camaraderie that has gone on here for a good while.

    Not pointing fingers, and not placing blame.


    The game needs to either be erased, or Admin should get someone extremely knowledgeable on the arcade stuff(Scott Stilphen is a suggestion), to explore the game and write their own unbiased tracks and lock it up, "this is how you have to play".


    I understand that this takes away from "interesting" track creation, which I like very much, but I just don't see any other way for this to stop.

    I'm thinking it's been going on close to a couple years now?

    That's not gud...


    Someone important needs to bring a hammer. This is driving people away.

  2. Snowflake's Avatar

    i see your point roger, and removing everyones right is better than just removing one sides, but thats still giving into a temper tantrum

    when i was a kid i had a cat, not the family, i. i did alot of work digging a trench to help reroute the water from flooding the basement. I could either get a tg-16 add on, or adopt the stray cat. i chose the stray cat (snowball, later inspiration name for snowflake, who later inspired my name here). so it was MY cat

    if my sister wanted to play with him she'd take him into her room, if i argued to get him back my mother would say "if the cat is leading to a fight it goes outside"

    so all my sister had to do is take him, and since i loved him i had to let her keep him. my choices were either let my sister keep MY cat, or fight over him and niether of us get him and hes thrown outside

    taking a cat, a toy, a track, whatever away from people comeone someone makes a fight just gives the bullies another tool in thier arsenaol

    i never hated jjt, just found him annoying. never saw him as a danger. but after he got admin to collude with him and shut down our abilty to make even valid tracks while he can run a much, that changed everything. i am now very upset.

    so no, shutting down thigns cause of fights will just lead to every sore loser fighting when they dont get their way. oh wah wah please tg delete track that i'm not first place on, i'll throw a temper tantrum until you do-- you see where this can go


    when someone throws a temper tantrum punish them for doing the wrong thing, dont take away others rights

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  3. Desidious's Avatar

    What are we talking about here? I'm a legitimate track creator and damn good at derivatives too. Is there some kind of ban on track creation? I literally have hundreds of untracked games that needs to be on this site.

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  4. Snowflake's Avatar

    anyone whos not named mr.juan torres is no longer to make derivates for the fast and furious tracks they created

    daniel even has filmed scores he was planning on submitting and now cant submit to the derivates he was going to make for them.


    thats the sort of power Mr.Juan has been giving when he doesnt even play vidoe games

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  5. Desidious's Avatar

    Oh I thought we were talking about general track creation. I don't care about the dumpster fire that is Last and Dubious Super Karts.

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  6. Snowflake's Avatar

    now we were just explicity not to make derivates for the track poor daniel was about to submit on. of course, if whining shut that down who know what other special powers juan will be given

  7. Desidious's Avatar

    Franny is too nice and sweet to handle the type of toxicity Juan has and I don't want her to be corrupted on that level. I believe the community should take a vote.

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  8. Rogerpoco's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by Snowflake

    i see your point roger, and removing everyones right is better than just removing one sides, but thats still giving into a temper tantrum

    when i was a kid i had a cat, not the family, i. i did alot of work digging a trench to help reroute the water from flooding the basement. I could either get a tg-16 add on, or adopt the stray cat. i chose the stray cat (snowball, later inspiration name for snowflake, who later inspired my name here). so it was MY cat

    if my sister wanted to play with him she'd take him into her room, if i argued to get him back my mother would say "if the cat is leading to a fight it goes outside"

    so all my sister had to do is take him, and since i loved him i had to let her keep him. my choices were either let my sister keep MY cat, or fight over him and niether of us get him and hes thrown outside

    taking a cat, a toy, a track, whatever away from people comeone someone makes a fight just gives the bullies another tool in thier arsenaol

    i never hated jjt, just found him annoying. never saw him as a danger. but after he got admin to collude with him and shut down our abilty to make even valid tracks while he can run a much, that changed everything. i am now very upset.

    so no, shutting down thigns cause of fights will just lead to every sore loser fighting when they dont get their way. oh wah wah please tg delete track that i'm not first place on, i'll throw a temper tantrum until you do-- you see where this can go


    when someone throws a temper tantrum punish them for doing the wrong thing, dont take away others rights


    Point taken, but the most appealing nugget of interest to me...


    Lol, My Pron name is Snowball Melrose.

    My first cat was Snowball, I **** you not(I think I've made that reference here before, but no way I'm digging it up, I talk too much), and he was VERY important to me, but I so swear-I remember me and my year and 3/4 years younger Sister having the exact same type "fight/no fight" arrangement as you described with your Sister.

    I friggin swear, man. I fought(or "didn't fight") over a Snowball too!!!

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  9. Blackflag82's Avatar

    @SincerelyFranny @Jace Hall @admin staff

    40% of the previous week's wall posts now directly link to Juan and his tantrum. The first post of the past week was about the Billy lawsuit, which means that it was a likely a driving force in what the new folks coming to site over the past week have been coming for, and instead they are seeing this dumpster fire that is the JJT FF show front and center.

    IMO, allowing him to continue having wall posts and track creation privileges is about the worst thing to do in the effort to build the community...


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  10. Snowflake's Avatar

    thanks for the support blackflag, but i dont think its the worse. i think giving him the authority to stop others from creating tracks is the wrost thing to do to biuld the community

    now a clear message has been sent that as long as you tag and mail admin enough you can remove other rights to submit scores and create tracks. after he was rewarded with such increased powers others will see that and no doubt follow suit. rewarding bad behavior only serves to encourage more such behavior

    why tg wants to encourage such behvaior is beyond me

  11. SincerelyFranny's Avatar

    There is no ban on track creation. Everyone is taking this too far.

    I simply ask those who were antagonizing Juan, to let him make the tracks he has been complaining about for YEARS now on his own. I just wanted to see the end of it and I got there with him.

    Post like this are just continuing drama that should not have existed in the first place.
    Please carry on with your TG life without thinking about Fast and the Furious. I know no one but him cared about the game in the first place. Block Juan if it triggers you so much.

    I understand many of the users think of Juan as a form of entertainment, but I've reached a point where I am done with it.

    Everyone always looks for reasons to get upset. While there is a lot to be upset over, THIS ONE THING I asked of everyone to do out of kindness is becoming a new chapter of drama.

    I've been told I am too nice many time and please note THIS DOES NOT ONLY DIRECTED TO HOW I TREAT JUAN. I've let many of you slide on things I maybe shouldn't have. If everyone prefers bans and restrictions just fly out, that can be done. As I've mentioned many times I'm trying my hardest to be patient and diplomatic with the community, but I think everyone is taking advantage of that. So maybe it is time for a change.

    This thread is being locked and the conversation of Super Cars is over. Juan will submit his score, vote on them if you like, but anything else on the topic will be put to a stop.

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  12. MyOwnWorstEnemy's Avatar

    If there was ever a time I would ever play Fast and Furious Super Duper Cars, its long past. The last time I was at a D&B, I walked past it and felt melancholy. It just reminds me about is the endless debate about getting stuck in objects, normal vs. abnormal shortcuts, hard-to-read rules, etc....

    No thanks.. not now... not ever!

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