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10-20-2020 at 10:09 PM
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ok i'll just outright beg for tapeworm help

@CWK @stygian you guys figured out how to max tapeworm. I'll often submit my lower scores get some conversation going and pick up the tips i need along the way that way. but i've submitted a few scores for tapeworm alreayd and at my wits end. i dont get it it seems just random how the enemies can screw you. i watched your game all the way through steve and i didnt detect you do anyting special to control or predict enemy movement, it seemed like you were also at the mercy of rng but just had better rng. is there something i missing? is there some way to predict, control, or even just as a matter of probabilty increase odds agains the enemies? or do you just keep replaying until you finall get that one long game with no screw jobs?

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  1. Fly's Avatar

    Tapeworm?!?! WTF is Tapeworm???


  2. Blackflag82's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by Fly

    Tapeworm?!?! WTF is Tapeworm???



    Hec, If you don't know you're going to the wrong bars

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  3. Rogerpoco's Avatar

    I'm not really "adding to the discussion"-I was able to get a decent EMU run in, but when I tried to match it on hardware for a few ESI, I just couldn't do it for some reason.

    Typically, Kool-Aid-Man, etc, on "fast reaction" games I'm almost always more comfortable on Hardware, but not this game, can't really explain "why".


    My guess is you play skillfully until you get lucky, but I honestly wouldn't know.

  4. JWillard's Avatar

    So, is there a special sub group of Atari people? Like a cool group inside of the cool group? I don't see random Atari games showing up on here. It looks like you are all playing the same games at the same time. Then everyone changes over to a new game at the same time. Is it coordinated, or have you all developed a hive mind?

  5. JJT_Defender's Avatar


    Ask any these great Atari 2600 players there are the best they should know.

    The 3 red dot lines are ESI expert skill index for each of these platforms and top players select the red dot lines to see the top 10 players then select the player there you can send a message to them to ask your questions.

    Your welcome


    Quote Originally Posted by JWillard

    So, is there a special sub group of Atari people? Like a cool group inside of the cool group? I don't see random Atari games showing up on here. It looks like you are all playing the same games at the same time. Then everyone changes over to a new game at the same time. Is it coordinated, or have you all developed a hive mind?

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  6. Rogerpoco's Avatar

    Lol, I'll take this one...

    :D

    OK. Nothing said is really "actual", or "set in stone", but the response to your question, as I see it...


    I compete on a lot of different systems, I am sure you have seen.

    But(again, my opinion), there really is something "special" about the Atari community here.

    First-(my opinion, and I'm not gonna say that again, ha, just carry it over to anything that COULD be an opinion), the two very likely best ever players on the 2600 play here.

    Not gonna do "names" here, BTW.

    Other super-top players pop to the 2600 from time to time, and for the most part, what you are seeing is pretty typical, the 2600 "crew" really does a lot to "help each other out" with understanding games, etc.

    There's this other PITA that is a little over friendly, has a bad habit of "jumping on" new 2600 players in PM's, encouraging them to continue, etc, I've heard he's a pretty good "little birdie".

    :D


    There is a bit of a "Hive mind" thing, I suppose-that kinda "sounds bad", but I know that wasn't your intent, and I didn't take it that way(bad).

    There's a few reasons on the "same game" thing that happens-

    For one, simple exposure. You see someone playing something you hadn't thought to play, and go "Wow, I'd like to do that!".

    Another is simple "scoreboard chasing" on popular games, Activision and stuff, everyone eventually gets around to those, haha!


    The biggest is probably the AtariAge tournament tho.

    TBH, I'm probably TMI'ing too much lately, here and there, but yes, there is a small pretty tight group of folks from here that compete in a High Score Club there, they throw different random games at us weekly, so oftentimes the "same game" scores will be whatever game is on tap over there that week.

    We actually just ended a season, the finals brackets start soon, and I admit to being quite proud-

    In random thread talk(which fires I have certainly fueled!)and in PM's, I've put together that "the competition has gotten a lot tougher the last few years", and people seem to clearly know that "those TG Guys came in and invaded the show", haha!

    It's not resentment or anything, and there are plenty of FANTASTIC players there that don't compete here, don't get me wrong-they also seem to know that we are really helpful and stuff, and typically explain EXACTLY how to go about achieving the scores we do.


    Well, that's about it.

    It's easy to find the right Friends here, I've said this before, just be interesting, and interested, it'll all work out fine.

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  7. MyOwnWorstEnemy's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by JWillard

    So, is there a special sub group of Atari people? Like a cool group inside of the cool group? I don't see random Atari games showing up on here. It looks like you are all playing the same games at the same time. Then everyone changes over to a new game at the same time. Is it coordinated, or have you all developed a hive mind?

    I think the timing and selection of games going through the adjudication queue has something to do with contests going on at other sites, like Atari Age. Also if someone finds a better technique in a game and uploads their submission in TGSAP, other high caliber players will utilize that technique and improve upon their previous submissions.

    That's all I got!

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  8. Snowflake's Avatar

    Twin galaxies Atari name and arcade gather quite the number of competitors. After that it seems modern mobile mini games is the other area of focus

    coordinates games Atari age style sounds fun but I haven’t started yet look at the dare of my scores I’m often a year off but there’s enough Atari players here that whatever game I choose likely already had quite a few players

  9. swaggers's Avatar

    I haven't played it yet but I just got a copy of Tapeworm the other day.

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  10. stygian's Avatar

    Hello, friends. Late reply here, not to make Snowflake stew, just been very busy with the twin princesses.

    Some observations from the gameplay are:

    1. Beeky and Pocospider will always enter the garden from the top and go down, or enter from stage Left and exit stage right. Once you hear an enemy and see it coming, run away at a right angle.

    2. Beeky and Poco will always get in some kills during a game - that's pretty unavoidable. I do not know of or see any tendencies or patterns on their routes taken or spawning. Just remember to never, ever kill yourself off, the enemies are good enough at it that you should not help them. Out of the potential 12 lives you get, have THEM earn all their kills.

    3. Screen 3 is the most difficult for me. To avoid the extra lamp lighting, try to go horizontally first (then vertically) at the bean when you get a glimpse at it.

    4. Finish every screen ASAP, no point pressing or loitering. Less time on a level means fewer encounters with the enemies.

    There are some general gameplay rules that go without saying like: Never run at an enemy, make sure you have enough time to get the exit fruit, keep your tapeworm stretched out and never run along walls and box yourself in somewhere, etc...

    Hope this helped, see you at the top, Snow.

    Clay, anything else to add?


    Stygian

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  11. Snowflake's Avatar

    thanks stygian, but sadly thats all stuff i pretty much knew at my score is still pretty sporadic. i did question on point pressing wondering if maybe the final two stages were worth it. but even when i dont try to point press my score is still very sporadic

    can you consistenly max it if you want? or do you often get screwed under 3k as well?

  12. stygian's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by Snowflake

    thanks stygian, but sadly thats all stuff i pretty much knew at my score is still pretty sporadic. i did question on point pressing wondering if maybe the final two stages were worth it. but even when i dont try to point press my score is still very sporadic

    can you consistenly max it if you want? or do you often get screwed under 3k as well?

    Hello Snowflake, I had to play this game many times before getting the big breakthrough score, at least 20 - 25 times. I had maxed this title out twice - recorded it once. I don't remember many kill offs in the 3K range, but, yeah, it can be very frustrating of a game if your end goal is to max it out.

    BTW, My home has been attacked by many snowflakes here in Calgary today, about 2 inches... this could be the luck you've been waiting for.

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  13. Snowflake's Avatar

    6935 in queue. well not in queue yet, uploading. but my computer just reset on me twice so it might not be ready to view to soon but expect it up today

  14. EVN's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by JWillard

    So, is there a special sub group of Atari people?


    I call them Boomers, does that count?

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