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11-24-2020 at 12:22 PM
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Can anyone explain the high score issue with billy's game?

the issue was brought up in stream but i think misinterperted exactly how the high score is changing, so let me explain in a largeer comment here

day1
high score is 12930
billy eventulaly passes 12930 and new highscore is 977480

direct feed goes out, billy moves camera away from machine
when direct feed and camera returns high score is again 12930

12930 is eventually passed with 315240
the 315240 score stays for multiple games, never reverting

end of day the high score is 327870

day2
beginning of stream high score is reverted to 315240
THIS IS WHATS WEIRD. i could see reverting to some internal saved score, but now we've seen it revert to 12930 but more recently 315240, which is a score billy earned. the reverting to previous high scores is what i dont get

billy eventually gets 990080

2:34:36 990080 high score, direct feed goes out, camera not moved
2:48:15 mentions "we gotta wait for the computer people here
2:48:40 blocks view of screen
2:49:33 score reverts back to 315240

weird dialog with doc mac

4:08:13 direct feed cuts out, mentions "gonna have fun with doc tell him i was over a millin"
--remember we know the high score on cab SHOULD say that from earlier in the day desepirte direct feed lowering. is he covering for knowing doc will see the high score?
4:09:11 doc inspects back of machine
4:11:15 we see that weird bug on screen
4:11:42 "i got to 1.1 milion" he tells mac as mac look at on screen score and seems to accept that as believable
whats strange about this, is the score should show the 977480, and when doc mac checks the screen after hearing billy rolled it he doesnt say "nuh uh you only have 315240", he seems to think the roll is believable which is how someone would respond if 977480 was on screen despite 315240 being on the direct feed.....

anyway you get the idea. i'll paste in my more complete notes in the next comment


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    DAY1

    2:5112930 high score unclear on menu
    1:04:30 12930 high score, normal restart, menu and all
    3:50:46 game over, 977480, direct feed goes out, blly moves camera away from game onto another game
    4:13:06 direct feed back, 12930 score restored, camera moved back
    4:57:05 camera pointed at different cabinet, irect feed still on
    4:58:00 direct feed goes out
    4:59:09 direct feed returns, shortly after camera pointed back. unclearon menu, 121130 correctly saved as high score
    6:52:20 turns camera away 315240 was score
    6:52:40 cuts out direcct feed
    6:53:38 direct feed and camera return, 315240 correctly saved as high score
    around 7:40-8:00 direct feed and camera again go out after game ends.
    8:01:35 direct feed and camera return, 315240 correctly saved as high score
    9:12:10 215540 high score game ends, direct feed goes out, unlike before camera is NOT moved
    9:12:39 camera not moved, billy is in front of camera, but can see pieces of screen. restart appears correct with him entering code and all, direct feed returns high score correctly preserved
    10:56:55 passes old high of 315240
    end the stream in hiding spot for overnight 327870

    DAY2
    beginning of game missing. starts at thrid level. high score is reverted back to 315240
    1:27:25 the 315240 score is passed (again)
    2:34:36 990080 high score, direct feed goes out, camera not moved
    2:48:15 mentions "we gotta wait for the computer people here
    2:48:40 blocks view of screen
    2:49:33 score reverts back to 315240
    3:23:00 direct feed cuts out (315240 not surpassed)
    3:23:04 places body in frotn of camera blocking view of arcade
    3:23:34 direct feed comes back, immediately loses
    3:24:15 direct feed cuts out, puts body right in front of camera blocking view of screen
    3:25:00 direct feed returns exactly at start of game, score still correctly 315240
    4:05:30 GET BACK TO THIS SUPPOSEDLY WHERE BUG HAPPENS
    4:08:13 direct feed cuts out, mentions "gonna have fun with doc tell him i was over a millin"
    --remember we know the high score on cab SHOULD say that from earlier in the day desepirte direct feed lowering. is he covering for knowing doc will see the high score?
    4:09:11 doc inspects back of machine
    4:11:15 we see that weird bug on screen
    4:11:42 "i got to 1.1 milion" he tells mac as mac look at on screen score and seems to accept that as believable
    4:13:46 moves camera off screen
    4:14:00 makes a comment no need for masks since in isolated area
    missed time stamp but camera goes back to screen, direct feed still out, doc still trying to fix issue
    4:20:00 can see menu, and billy enter code for pacman. appears to be completley legit start
    4:20:40 direct feed returns, 315240 score retained
    5:28:40 loses, moves camera away from cab, direct feed still on
    5:29:00 moves last guy to safe spot, direct feed goes out
    5:29:34 moves camer back but blocks with body
    5:30:15 appears to enter code for legit restart
    5:30:20 direct feed returns
    6:18:11 blocks view of arcade for final deathas
    6:18:30 on last death direct feed immediatley goes out
    6:18:50 restarts, direct feed returns, nothing out of the ordinary
    6:53:54 put pacman in safe spot, blocks camera, direct feed goes out.
    6:54:36 direct feed back game begins, score is 315240 as expected
    8:30:56 passes the 315240 score
    9:34:53 rolls the score, with high score staying at 996320 (correct behavior i believe)
    9:59 around, loses and just keeps pac man in safe spots for minutes
    around 10:00:00 billys phone is visible on screen, not sure if anything of use can be found from thta
    10:01:10 direct feed cuts out, 5 lives remain, score 335730/996320. can hear him killing men on cabinet while blocking view with body
    10:02:22 direct feed returns, briefly see menu less than second. high score reverts to 315240
    day ends with 210500 score and 315240 high score, first key

    DAY 3 stream 1
    can see menu on game, no direct feed yet
    one minute in blockview of screen and chat is where direct feed would, which is what usually happens when direct feed out (not suspicious, just noting)
    9:50 direct feed comes on, bily starts playing, high score is 315240
    1:58:40 passes 315240 high score
    2:17:21 loses, was in safe spot at end,358700 high score direct feed goes out, game view blocked
    there appears to be missing footage here, but thats fine since its between games anyway
    2:17:49 direct feed retursn, game starts again, 315240 restored
    3:36:11 stream ends score/highscore = 259700/315240

    DAY3 stream 2

    starts with 225640/321960 so a differnet game than last stream ended with
    31:11 kills all men except one, goes to safe spot, direct feed cuts out, blocks screen with body
    score was103010/321960
    31:50 direct feed returns, get a glipse of screen just before, 321960 high score retained
    2:06:00 direct feed goes out, camera moved off screen 272780/321960, they mention they're resetting
    2:10:03 321960 still high score
    3:26:00 goes down to one life, puts it in safe spot, direct feed goes and camera moves 223400/321960
    3:27:06 briefly see earlier screen when direct feed returns, sore 321960
    5:12:00 beats 321960 (again)
    6:08:53 rolls score giving high of 996320
    ends stream with 4 lives left, 1650860 score, high score display 996320

    DAY4

    stream starts in the middle of a game, high score 321960 again
    1:03:09 beats 321960 (again)
    2:11:02 rolls the score to 996320
    2:14:47 moves pacman in corner after klling of all but one life
    2:15:13 direct feed goes out and camera moved 39500/996320
    2:15:40 score resets 321960
    3:54:48 beats 321960 (again)
    5:08:55 rolls the score 996320
    6:17:48 651480/996320
    6:18 can see its on free play
    6:19:47 direct feed goes out, cabinet camera not hidden, galaga screen
    stands in front of machine blocking review
    6:20:32 game restarts, menu showed less than a second, 321960 restored
    6:21:28 after death direct feed goegs out, billy blocking view of camera
    6:22:19 restart, menu showed less than second, score still 321960
    6:26:04 game ends, 9490/321960 free play
    6:26:14 restarts completley normally using code and all
    7:12:48 321960 pass (again)
    7:46:15 395150/359150 free play game ends, new score appears saved. pac menu up
    7:46:45 direct feed cuts out, billy blocks view of screen with his body
    7:47:20 direct feed returns, just before billy did appear to enter the code, high score reverted back to 321960
    9:26:00 laves last guy in hiding spot, 286030/321960
    9:27:33 direct feed cuts out, billy blocks view of screen with his body
    9:28:07 billy picking his ass while using his body to block view of cab
    9:28:58 direct feed returns high score remains 321960
    10:49:10 stream cuts out 226220/321960

    i edited out the twitch links cause the tg wall has a bug where all text before the last link is hidden. but the days should tell you where to look

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    Updated 11-24-2020 at 12:29 PM by Snowflake
  2. Ninglendo's Avatar

    Who breaks the continuity of a recording between games? Meaning when a game ends who moves the camera away from the cab until they are ready to go again? Nobody that is who. Thanks to @Jace Hall for showing me that Pac-Man has it's own separate high score table from Ms. Pac and Galaga too and that unplugging the machine still keeps the high score table saved.

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  3. Snowflake's Avatar

    and cutout without showing board at beginng or end, lovely. with all the suspcious activity on the high score of the board i'm very disappointed there was no attempt to show the insides as part of one continuous stream

  4. lexmark's Avatar

    Here's me getting a Pac Man world record. Do yourself a favour and read the comments ................................





    john


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  5. Snowflake's Avatar

    honestly, it has some small amount of skill, some fun gimmick value, and an entertaining display. I enjoyed the minute.

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