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01-28-2021 at 12:48 PM
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hopeful info on jjt juan's cred hit

Juan, you approved this submission which has now been disputed and removed. https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthread.php/224266-Dispute-Simon-Leitch-M-A-M-E-Galaga-Namco-rev-B-Points-Marathon-Player-Pablo-Forc%C3%A9n-Score-718-450


i'm not going to dig through every disputed submission to find the other two, you can dig through your own stuff just fine, but i hope this demonstrates its not a bug and rather the system working as desinged. had you taken jace's advice and looked the recent disputes you would've known this

side note, that thread where you complain i cant reply to, but you dont seem to have me blocked since ican reply to other threads hence my making a seperate post here

you're welcome. i hope this clears that matter up and we can return to life as normal

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  1. Ninglendo's Avatar

    It's gotta be a bug. A top adjudicator would never make mistakes like this.

  2. Snowflake's Avatar

    I know right? certainly a life long gamer, and even former TG employee would never troll either

  3. Almighty Dreadlock's Avatar

    I guess it's admin locking Mr Torres's wall threads, to prevent any discussion's happening. Since members have received CR penalties, due to acceptance of my latest disputes, when there no penalties connected to the acceptance of similar disputes I raised, years ago, admin might suffer a bit of embarrassment at the exposure of its alarming lack of consistent policy, and we can't have that.

  4. Snowflake's Avatar

    was there truly no cred hit? or just a delayed one? it was my understanding the system always recalculates from day 1, and of course such an inefficient process which will only get more inefficient with time results in a while for the cred recalc to materialize.


    to be fair, such a simple system, despite very inneficient, due to its simplicity is less likely to have bugs, whereas a slighlty more complex but efficient system has a great chance of being programmed incorrectly. so i'm really not suggseting it be changed, just wondering if that delay is the cause.

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  5. Almighty Dreadlock's Avatar

    Delay lasting not just months, but years?

    Don't think I'm willing to stretch my credulity that far.

  6. Snowflake's Avatar

    oh if its years then no thats not what i meant. i would think the delay is only days. if we're into years then you've found a real problem

  7. Almighty Dreadlock's Avatar

    Yeh, the "real problem" being admin's dodgy practices.

    You are one of those who followed my lead, when I first started disputing Jackmovich's deliberately invalidated records. Do you recall anyone's losing huge chunks of CR, during all that time? Neither do I.

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  8. JJT_Defender's Avatar

    As you clearly see I never voted on this video game submission.

    M.A.M.E. - Galaga [Namco rev.B] - Points [Marathon] - 718,450 - Pablo Forcén


    Is this Performance Claim valid?


    • This poll is closed

    This poll is closed

  9. Snowflake's Avatar

    i dont clearly see that at all, but its also true i'm only guessing you voted on it based on your positive comment in the thread.

  10. Snowflake's Avatar

    an actual screenshot rather than a cut and paste would be more convincing, not that you owe me or anyone else proof

  11. JJT_Defender's Avatar

    If a TG member either voted yes or no it will clearly say that. If no vote has been cast then it will say this poll is closed and will be in either accepted or not accepted in Twin Galaxies Scoreboard Database archives.

    I did not vote on this submission.

    I finally figured out upload pictures here it is different than submission threads.

    Here it is William I told you the truth.

    Updated 01-28-2021 at 01:34 PM by JJT_Defender
  12. Jace Hall's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by Almighty Dreadlock

    I guess it's admin locking Mr Torres's wall threads, to prevent any discussion's happening. Since members have received CR penalties, due to acceptance of my latest disputes, when there no penalties connected to the acceptance of similar disputes I raised, years ago, admin might suffer a bit of embarrassment at the exposure of its alarming lack of consistent policy, and we can't have that.

    AD,

    If you are going to make a claim like that, please provide proof so it can be determined and further investigated.


  13. Jace Hall's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by Almighty Dreadlock

    Yeh, the "real problem" being admin's dodgy practices.

    Please provide proof of the the "dodgy practices." Happy to review and discuss any truth to the accusation.

    If you can not or are unwilling to provide any demonstrable proof and want to continue to degrade the administrative efforts being made here with unfounded accusation, please let me know so we can address it accordingly.

    Thank you.

  14. Snowflake's Avatar

    [QUOTE=JJT_Defender;bt65913]

    If a TG member either voted yes or no it will clearly say that. If no vote has been cast then it will say this poll is closed and will be in either accepted or not accepted in Twin Galaxies Scoreboard Database archives.

    I did not vote on this submission.

    I finally figured out upload pictures here it is different than submission threads.

    Here it is William I told you the truth.

    [/QUOTE]


    ah ok, i was just going by your comment. but ok yes, it would appear based on this you abstained after all. i'm still skeptical its a bug, but ok, it also seems i was in error on this point

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  15. Almighty Dreadlock's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by Jace Hall
    AD,

    If you are going to make a claim like that, please provide proof so it can be determined and further investigated.

    .
    I'm actually glad to hear that you intend to investigate the matter.

    The proof is to be found in the Accepted Disputes archive. I raised a number of disputes, before admin fiddled my account, to prevent me from raising more. From those disputes, I observed no effect on any member's CR. Granted, I may have missed something, but I doubt it.

    After whatever was done to my account was undone, I restarted raising disputes. Now, all of a sudden, acceptance of said disputes is causing multiple members' CR to incur significant penalties.

    You are well aware that the aforementioned fiddling of my account was a real thing, and not a figment of my imagination. If you take a look at the disputes I raised before the fiddling, I think you will find that things were not quite the same as with the disputes I raised after the fiddling.
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  16. Almighty Dreadlock's Avatar

    The last seventeen disputes to be accepted were raised by myself, all of which were against records set by Joseph Jackmovich, all of which were based on missing evidence.

    After the acceptance of these disputes, I noticed that Terence O'Neill's CR dropped by about 2,000, and Duc Dang's by about 5,000. Two longtime adjudicators, who likely voted on many of Jackmovich's submissions.

    Interestingly, Jackmovich's CR is the one which has fallen the farthest. It is now less than 10,000, when it used to be higher 30,000. That entire deficit occurred, after I began disputing his records. So, did he not really leave TG, over the Dragster dispute? Has he been sneaking back here, casting bad votes? Yeh, right.

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  17. Jace Hall's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by Almighty Dreadlock


    .
    I'm actually glad to hear that you intend to investigate the matter.

    The proof is to be found in the Accepted Disputes archive. I raised a number of disputes, before admin fiddled my account, to prevent me from raising more. From those disputes, I observed no effect on any member's CR. Granted, I may have missed something, but I doubt it.

    After whatever was done to my account was undone, I restarted raising disputes. Now, all of a sudden, acceptance of said disputes is causing multiple members' CR to incur significant penalties.

    You are well aware that the aforementioned fiddling of my account was a real thing, and not a figment of my imagination. If you take a look at the disputes I raised before the fiddling, I think you will find that things were not quite the same as with the disputes I raised after the fiddling.

    Based on the evidence you have provided above, your assessment appears to be anecdotal. Your assessment also defies how the calculation system for CR must function.

    It would be helpful if you could please provide a specific example of a user where on the basis of your assertion, their CR calculation is incorrect.

    In regard to your account, there was no "fiddling" or anything "dodgy" about it. There was a deliberate alteration to your account by administration due to your continued utilization of the dispute system in a manner that was not consistent with policy at that time. This alteration specifically prohibited you from being able to further originate disputes. You were made aware of this at that time.



  18. Jace Hall's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by Almighty Dreadlock

    The last seventeen disputes to be accepted were raised by myself, all of which were against records set by Joseph Jackmovich, all of which were based on missing evidence.

    After the acceptance of these disputes, I noticed that Terence O'Neill's CR dropped by about 2,000, and Duc Dang's by about 5,000. Two longtime adjudicators, who likely voted on many of Jackmovich's submissions.

    Interestingly, Jackmovich's CR is the one which has fallen the farthest. It is now less than 10,000, when it used to be higher 30,000. That entire deficit occurred, after I began disputing his records. So, did he not really leave TG, over the Dragster dispute? Has he been sneaking back here, casting bad votes? Yeh, right.

    I am not understanding what you are suggesting.

    Jackmovich must have voted on his own submissions, and as they are disputed and rejected, his CR recalculates. There is nothing magical about this.

  19. Almighty Dreadlock's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by Jace Hall
    In regard to your account, there was no "fiddling" or anything "dodgy" about it. There was a deliberate alteration to your account by administration due to your continued utilization of the dispute system in a manner that was not consistent with policy at that time. This alteration specifically prohibited you from being able to further originate disputes. You were made aware of this at that time.
    .
    I find this very interesting. Are you asserting that my raising disputes against Jackmovich's records, based on his withdrawal of the records' evidence, was an abuse of the system? By which method was I supposed to have been made aware of this violation of TG policy? Did you, or any of your admin staff, send me an e'mail, stating that the raising of valid disputes went against TG policy? Did you, or any of your admin staff, post comments in any of the dispute threads, informing me that the disputes constituted an abuse of the system? Were the other TG members, who also raised multiple disputes against Jackmovich's records, similarly informed that they were violating TG policy? When did TG's policy concerning the raising of valid disputes change?
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  20. Snowflake's Avatar

    My memory could be wrong but I seem to recall it happening during the double dragon disputes rather than anything joe related

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