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01-10-2018 at 05:36 PM
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NES multicarts

What is TG's stance/thoughts on multicarts? I have submitted many highscore runs on another highscore related website using a Golden Game 260-in-1 and they are accepted there. Flashcarts are allowed so myself I don't see the issue. I just need confirmation weither if I could or should bring some of my NES scores onto TG's leaderboards.
Thanks for your response.
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  1. sdwyer138's Avatar
    My initial feelings are no, they would not be accepted. Sometimes on those types of carts they remove stuff from the games or otherwise alter it so that they can fit everything in. Interested in hearing other opinions though.
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  2. TB-303's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by sdwyer138
    My initial feelings are no, they would not be accepted. Sometimes on those types of carts they remove stuff from the games or otherwise alter it so that they can fit everything in. Interested in hearing other opinions though.
    So far the only differences that I can think of on the GoldenGame 260 in 1 is the removal of copyright mentions on main menus, 1942 has a glitched font making it impossible to read the score while playing & Yie Ar Kung-Fu is prone to crashing. Haven't witnessed any missing enemies or boards on any game.
    Do you think there could be any subtle differences that would be almost impossible or very hard to find while watching a gameplay video that could give a player an unfair advantage?
  3. Derek's Avatar
    What’s up man :)
    i peronnally don’t have a problem with them here since there’s video requirements due to the adjudication process but not everyone has the same view on it as me. If there’s any difference in game play which the majority of the games (if any) probably won’t have then it’ll be exposed and the score can be rejected, if one gets accepted and there’s a difference after the voting then a dispute could be filed against the score so it can be removed.

    Thats my 2 cents on it
  4. Rogerpoco's Avatar
    Multicarts can be very hit and miss, I really don't think they can be an accepted medium, TBH.
    I love and use my flashcarts regularly, but I have a multicart for NES, and it's just not the same, the games all seem to have some problem or another, they aren't pure roms, in almost all cases.

    I feel for you, I want to sub on NES badly, but I just don't think multicarts will ever be accepted.
  5. Rogerpoco's Avatar
    But if it is deemed ok, I'm all on board with subbing with my 256 in one!!!
    :)
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  6. Derek's Avatar
    Everdrives are SOOO worth the hundred dollars ;)
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  7. redelf's Avatar
    I wouldn't allow any device from China, way too much knockoff stuff there. But if your talking about everdrives and harmony and things like that then I'm all for them. I'm ok with a flash cart but not a cart that has a rom or some other way to provide the software. I wan't a device that is specifically built to be exactly like a cartridge and for the user to have to provide the rom.
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  8. TB-303's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by redelf
    I wouldn't allow any device from China, way too much knockoff stuff there. But if your talking about everdrives and harmony and things like that then I'm all for them. I'm ok with a flash cart but not a cart that has a rom or some other way to provide the software. I wan't a device that is specifically built to be exactly like a cartridge and for the user to have to provide the rom.
    What is the reason you wouldn't accept a run done using a multicart on an original NES/console?
    Also the issue with flashcarts is a user could run modified roms or use game genie codes that give them an unfair advantage and they could be hard to detect.
    But on the other hand, both allow for easier access on hard to find games or titles a player cannot afford (either due to space or money).
  9. Snowflake's Avatar
    The issue with multicarts is at least some of them have been proven to be different, so theres no way you can make a rule blanketly allowing them. I suppose on a case by case basis it could be done, but imagine trying to get all adjudicators to do all the necessary research just so that one person can submit on their particular multicart, and then a bunch more research when someone else submits on their different multcart. And no, just quoting the creators of the device saying they did research isnt good enough, everyone's gonna try to talk about how great they're product is.
  10. TB-303's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowflake
    The issue with multicarts is at least some of them have been proven to be different, so theres no way you can make a rule blanketly allowing them. I suppose on a case by case basis it could be done, but imagine trying to get all adjudicators to do all the necessary research just so that one person can submit on their particular multicart, and then a bunch more research when someone else submits on their different multcart. And no, just quoting the creators of the device saying they did research isnt good enough, everyone's gonna try to talk about how great they're product is.
    It would be quite hard to hear word about the creators let alone contact them as the cart I use was made in the 90's. Do you have any examples of what kind of differences has been proven on some multicarts? (some that affect gameplay that is)
    Not sure if this link could help, but it lists every game the cart has and some other info about it.
    http://bootleggames.wikia.com/wiki/260_in_1_Multicart

    I guess by what you're saying is it could be accepted, depending on the kind of multicart being used? Mind you I always record video of my gameplay so if there's noteable differences it would be easy to spot.
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