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11-28-2024 at 12:35 AM


Dear Community,

We want to share an important upcoming policy change that addresses an emerging limitation in our submission process and improve our flexibility for event-based competitions.

Currently, if a user submits a score claim and video for adjudication, and the score claim text field does not match the result shown in the video, the submission must be rejected, requiring a new submission with the correct score. This policy is sufficient for open-ended leaderboards but presents challenges for time-limited competitions, such as those run through our recent partner challenges like the successful Multiversus event.

To address this, we are going to introduce a new policy and feature that will allow users to update their score claim text field only (e.g., correcting a typo or miscount) during adjudication. Of course, the original uploaded video submission will still not be able to be altered or removed. The score claim text field adjustment option will require additional submission points (equal to submitting anew) to use and once activated it will allow the submitting user to adjust their score claim but also will reset all adjudication votes while preserving any attached comments or discussion. This ensures adjudicators are not penalized or caught off guard by the update. This function will only be available during the adjudication process, once a score is finally adjudicated there can be no alteration or updating.

For clarity, when a score claim text is updated by the submitting user:

1 - The user will incur additional submission point cost - the same submission point cost as a new submission.

  1. 2 - All votes on the adjudication will be reset and cleared to ensure fairness for adjudicators.

  2. 3 - Comments and discussions already attached to the submission will remain and continue as normal.

By resetting the votes, we ensure that no adjudicator is inadvertently penalized for a score claim correction, and the updated claim can be fairly reconsidered.

This new feature requires significant updates to our TGSAP system, which will take time to implement, so in the immediate need and case of the Multivesus challenge, Admin will manually apply the policy to any Multiversus submissions still awaiting adjudication where the user requested a score change update, as it is the only significant and active time-locked leader board that has submissions that fall into this category. Unfortunately, our engineering team is prioritizing the upcoming modern re-engineering of the Twin Galaxies website, set to launch in January 2025, so again, full implementation of this feature for users to access may be delayed a bit.

Why This Matters

This policy change reflects our dedication to fostering a more inclusive and flexible environment. As Twin Galaxies collaborates with major partners to host challenges that promote positivity and engagement, we must ensure that our systems support these initiatives without compromising the standards we’ve all worked so hard to uphold. These updates aim to balance our commitment to meticulous adjudication with the adaptability needed to thrive in today’s dynamic gaming culture.

Moving Forward

We understand that any policy change can spark concern, and we want to assure you that we remain steadfast in our dedication to the integrity of the adjudication process. This update is a step forward in ensuring that Twin Galaxies continues to grow, attract new members, and remain a trusted authority in video game achievement recognition.

We appreciate your understanding and support as we make these changes. Together, we can ensure that Twin Galaxies evolves while preserving the values that make this community extraordinary.

Thank you for being an essential part of this journey. Your passion and dedication inspire us every day.

Warm regards,
Twin Galaxies Team

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Quote Originally Posted by JJT_Defender

How much time does a TG member have to change their incorrect score before being submission being removed voted no rejected?

The answer to your question has already been written:
"The score will be rejected if the player does not make the necessary correction before the adjudication process concludes. If the correction is not made in time, the submission will be rightfully denied, and the player will need to resubmit".
In case of an incorrect score you must vote NO. When there are enough NO votes the submission will be rejected, according to the normal adjudication process.
If the player decides to make the correction in time then you will receive a notification and your vote will be automatically canceled, in order to avoid surprises that can compromise your credibility. The submission will then be subjected to a new adjudication process, in which case you will vote YES.

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I like the idea but suggest the cost to correct a typo be 2 SP otherwise, assuming the submitter votes on their own score, the cost to fix is more than the cost to ask for rejection and then to resubmit.

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What about resetting the voting process , when the rules change……. Or not allow rules changes at all…

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Quote Originally Posted by JJT_Defender

How much time does a TG member have to change their incorrect score before being submission being removed voted no rejected?

They will be able to change it as long as it hasnt been fully adjudicated yet. If the score gets adjudicated before they can change it, that adjudication stands, and the user will need to simply resubmit.

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Quote Originally Posted by timmell

What about resetting the voting process , when the rules change……. Or not allow rules changes at all…

Decisions regarding rule changes involve numerous variables, making it impractical to have a fixed policy beyond the general principle of avoiding such changes whenever reasonably possible.

Completely prohibiting rule changes is an overly rigid type of approach, and that kind of approach to things has historically caused more harm than good to Twin Galaxies. Therefore, the most effective policy is to evaluate each situation on a case-by-case basis.

The term "rule change" can encompass anything from minor adjustments, such as correcting text formatting, to significant overhauls like a complete rewrite. To implement what you may be suggesting, we would need to avoid a broad, all-encompassing definition of "rule change." Doing so would inevitably lead to debates about what does and does not qualify as a rule change—bringing us back to the necessity of a case-by-case approach as the most practical and balanced solution

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Quote Originally Posted by Barthax

On the face of it, this is an understandable and welcome change to the confusion (from my perspective) that happened with the MultiVerse scenario.


I would suggest, for the hindsight recording of entire threads: when such a change is made, automate a new comment into the thread to signify when the change occurs. This will mean that people can view the thread and understand at what point in the discussion the change occurred.


Prediction: people will still vote in a thread based on the initial comments and not read through. Can't teach everyone, meh. :P

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Quote Originally Posted by Barthax

On the face of it, this is an understandable and welcome change to the confusion (from my perspective) that happened with the MultiVerse scenario.


I would suggest, for the hindsight recording of entire threads: when such a change is made, automate a new comment into the thread to signify when the change occurs. This will mean that people can view the thread and understand at what point in the discussion the change occurred.


Prediction: people will still vote in a thread based on the initial comments and not read through. Can't teach everyone, meh. :P

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